[Jack_of_Trades]

Fair enough. One thing I didn't like about the old school method is between shifts you go all over the place in the rpm/load cells so its constantly searching for the correct timing in the map. With the NLTS its extremely consistent every time so I can adjust my map accordingly to eliminate the annoying shift knock spikes. I never get shift knock with the NLTS once I adjust for it but witht he old school manual method there was no telling how I reacted at every shift so there wasn't enough consistency for me. Seems that you don't have any shift knock issues so I guess you are all set there.