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Old Nov 28, 2007, 06:19 AM
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1 step colder spark plug, any changes to Timing?

If using a step colder plug are there any changes to the current MAP, namely timing?

Old Nov 28, 2007, 07:10 AM
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No. But you'll need to beat on the car more during daily driving or they will carbon up. For grins check the plugs at your next oil change and you'll see what I mean.

I'm curious what plugs you are using. Most 9 guys say finding copper replacements are a PITA.
Old Nov 28, 2007, 07:12 AM
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Yeah, the Denso replacement I once found is no longer listed anywhere for the IX ...
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
I'm curious what plugs you are using. Most 9 guys say finding copper replacements are a PITA.
He is probably using the 1 step colder iridiums. I dont think they are making the 1 step colder copper plugs yet.
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Been using BPR9ES for about 8 months with no plug loading from carbon. This is on a VIII though.

Answer to question is nope.
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^ Aren't you steam cleaning the combustion chamber?
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
^ Aren't you steam cleaning the combustion chamber?

Yeah, with all that meth injection I am sure you dont have to worry about the carbon buildup
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Intended plug is the NGK R7438-8.
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You could also use Denso IKH24's, they cost 1/3 of the NGK's...
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I honestly have no problems with my stock plugs... I ran 27 psi on 100 octane for 2 tank fulls and hard driving without a problem.

I'll just continue to replace them every 10k to be on the safe side.
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1 step colder spark plug, any changes to Timing?

Colder plugs does not have as much effect on timing as gaping the plug does.For over $50 per spark plug (R7438 ngk racing) you should not worry about spark plug problems,i'm sure you can put the money for better use.
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Originally Posted by mzp
Colder plugs does not have as much effect on timing as gaping the plug does.For over $50 per spark plug (R7438 ngk racing) you should not worry about spark plug problems,i'm sure you can put the money for better use.
So, how would a smaller gap effect timing? would you need to advance/retard it?
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Originally Posted by steadly2004
So, how would a smaller gap effect timing? would you need to advance/retard it?
Gap affects the ability for the plug to create a spark at certain cylinder pressures. The more pressure you have, the smaller gap you will need, otherwise the plug might not fire.

Choice of plugs and gaps will not affect the timing directly.

If you run ****ty/incorrect plugs and have to reduce timing because of misfire issues to cure the problem of too high cylinder pressures, then by switching to correct plug/gap/heat range you will be able to run more timing, because your chamber will be better cooled and you will have spark all the time. But again it's more of an indirect effect.

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