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Originally Posted by RotorGlow
Project Evolution X
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(using autocenter.net US pricing)
Air Inlet Tube - $46.55
Air Inlet Tube Gasket - $7.70
Air Outlet Tube - $47.40
Air Outlet Tube Gasket - $3.54
Bypass Valve - $141.00
Cover (o2 Housing) - $130.89
Cover (o2 Housing) Gasket - $30.76
Cover (o2 Housing) Bracket - $14.54
Exhaust Manifold - $392.29
Exhaust Manifold Gasket - $29.87
Intercooler - $609.79
Oil Inlet Tube - $57.89
Oil Inlet Tube Seal - $1.08
Oil Inlet Tube Gasket - $1.17
Oil Outlet Tube - $20.74
Oil Outlet Tube Upper Seal - $1.08
Oil Outlet Tube Lower Seal - $1.70
Stock Evolution ECU Maps - FREE
Turbocharger Gasket - $33.60
Turbocharger Lower Bracket - $14.54
Turbocharger Upper Bracket - $14.54
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Total $1,600.67
(using AMS Performance US pricing)
Upper Intercooler Piping - $295.00
Lower Intercooler Piping - $299.95
Turbocharger (Stock) - $995.00
Turbocharger (FP Red) - $1399.00
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Total $1,589.95
FP Red Total $1,993.95
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Grand Total $3,190.62
FP Red Grand Total $3,594.62
Let me know if I forgot anything, or if there is something that is not needed (As in it is already on the Ralliart).
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Okay, so what exactly are you going for?
Horsepower, torque, speed?
If it's speed, then are you looking at 0-60, 1/4 mile, trap speed, top end?
I'm not sure what the sportbacks are running. I would guess they are heavier and would require more power to get the same speeds as an X.
In terms of whp, it shouldn't be too difficult. Doing a little ricer math here, so bare with me.
Ralliart = 237 hp (factory flywheel)
Evo X = 291 hp (factory flywheel)
That is a difference of 54 hp, at the flywheel. 54 hp is pretty easy to make up, basic bolt ons and a tune will put you over that, heck a flash and a pill from AMS adds 50 whp, taking into account drive train loss and your pretty much there.
Now, if you want to compete with a stock X and a tune, then it's much harder to make up the ground, since they can gain 50 whp with a tune as well.
In the end, it's less about what you are seeing on a machine and more about real world performance. The real results are measured at the track in real time.
C & D places the Evo X at 5.0 in the 0-60 and 13.8 at 102 for the 1/4 mile.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...olution_page_9
C & D places the '09 RA (non-sportback) at 0-60 in 5.5 and 14.3 at 97 for the 1/4 mile.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
So you are basically talking about half a second difference stock for stock. YES YES YES, I've heard lower times from others, as much as 13.9 on the RA and 13.4 on the Evo X, but you get the idea (again this is all ricer math). AMS modded their RA to go 12.9 (in automatic sport mode) at the track with stock turbo, a few bolt ons, and a tune.
So, off the top of my head, I would say that if you are looking for 1/4 mile times, your best bet is to get around 4k-5k and drive down to AMS, tell 'em you wanna run 12's and let them do their thing.
Now, if you want top end power, you will have to go with the bigger turbo, as the stock RA turbo falls flat on it's face at higher speeds. It's just too small. This is where the Evo X turbo swap really makes the difference.
Bottom line if you want to be as fast, or faster than the Evo, you have to get the same, or better parts for your engine, that's just comon sense. You're looking at $1,400 just for the turbo and intake.
I would say, if you want to build over time, worry about the basics. Start with what will get you faster times from 0-60 and 1/4 mile, then finish it all off with the higher end speed and the Evo X turbo setup. Just remember, while you are looking at doing all of this the Xers are building up their stuff with FP reds and whatever else they can get their hands on.
The good news is, you've got the same basic block/bottom end. So you can, in theory, bypass the Evo X build up and go all out. FP red, etc.
Just remember there are a lot of minor changes that will come with each mod. New turbo needs a new intake, BOV, etc.
Good luck and keep us posted on how this all goes. I know I always love to read up on member mods, just don't forget to post pics.
Oh, and time slips if you have them.
There is just so much more focus out there on the Evo, with tuning and aftermarket parts. It makes upgrading so much easier and cheaper.
