Why cant we run Staggered?

japan101 · Nov 3, 2009, 05:16 PM

As the title says I want to know why we can't run staggered wheels on our cars whereas the Evo and in some cases the MR. Maybe I am not paying attention to what people are running but I would like a more definitive answer. I actually think it may be the offsets that I am paying more attention to than the wheel sizes.

ambystom01 · Nov 3, 2009, 05:31 PM

? The Evo doesn't run a staggered setup. The issue is the AWD, if you have different levels of grip at the front as you do the back and different rolling diameters, it freaks out and you put a lot of unnecessary stress on the differentials.

japan101 · Nov 3, 2009, 05:36 PM

Ok I see, then it must be the offset I was looking at.

Ladogaboy · Nov 3, 2009, 05:39 PM

Yeah, you could run staggered offsets (though I'm not sure why) as long as the width and O.D. of the tires are the same.

ambystom01 · Nov 3, 2009, 06:19 PM

Even then I think staggered would present issues if the two regions (front and rear) have different levels of grip.

brk4sti · Nov 3, 2009, 06:37 PM

Japaneese tuners run staggered setups but wider wheels in the front to avoid understeer and plowing on turn in, and that's the setup I will be running when my car is completed.

Ladogaboy · Nov 4, 2009, 10:20 AM

Something else to remember: Just because racers or "tuners" do something does not mean that it is ideal for the car. As amby said, running any tires that create different grip really mess with the differentials on an AWD car. If you you are actually racing, then you couldn't care less about the lifespan of your car; all you are worried about is performance. However, if you are planning on keeping your car running for more than 10,000 miles at a time, you might want to be a little more judicious about the modifications you choose to use.

ambystom01 · Nov 4, 2009, 10:53 AM

^Bingo. Tuners also run anti-lag, nitrous, dog box transmissions, sequential shifters, carbon brakes, etc. What goes in the racing world rarely works directly in the street driving world.

Tappington · Nov 4, 2009, 05:42 PM

I try to over think and see all ends of what I plan to do. You can get your car running anyway you want, but consider the long term affects and what your repercussions, as well as overall cost, would be.

Brake torquing and Neutral dropping get you performance on time runs, but at what cost? If i had Mitsubishi behind me with as many transmissions as I need then to hell with concern, but I only have one transmission.