2009 Lancer Ralliart Wheels/Tires Fitment

[evil03]

Hi Everyone,

I have been researching high and low... and I am looking get the maximum wide wheel can fit the New Ralliart...

Stock Spec
PCD 5X114.3
SIZE 18X7
OFFSET 46MM
HUB 67MM
TIRES 215/45-18

Now form what I know.... 9s is the wides we can squeeze with out rolling the REAR fender ON STOCK HEIGHT!!! but will need the ROLL the REAR when LOWERING!!!

Here are some options I found

18x9s on a RA!!!!

18x9 +45 will = front maxed flushed and maxed flushed rears
Inner Clearance: 24mm LESS Outer Face Position: 26mm MORE
Tires: 245/40 18 no rubbing issues yet with stock height
***When Lowered [WILL RUB on the REAR fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too] SO ROLL THE FENDERS!!!!!!***


18x9 +36 will = front will poke about 1/2" and poke about 1/4" in the rear
Inner Clearance: 15mm LESS Outer Face Position: 35mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues yet with stock height
***When Lowered [WILL RUB on the REAR fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too] SO ROLL THE FENDERS!!!!!!***
***PROOF***RRM Springs.***Hell Yea 9s baby!!


18x8.5 +38 will = fronts will poke out about 1/4" and rears will be flushed
Inner Clearance: 11mm LESS Outer Face Position: 27mm MORE
Tires:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender
235/40 18 and 245/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too
***This fitment is too AGGRESSIVE with rolling the fenders***
***Now for the JDM look this will work for those dont know what i mean is the slammed drifter look in japan where all 4 wheels poke out just little past the fenders and the car has rock hard suspension setup and lower the car to about 1 1/2" before rubbing the fenders***


18X8.5 +44 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 5mm spacer to be flushed
Inner Clearance: 17mm LESS Outer Face Position: 21mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 and 245/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height


18X8.5 +45 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 5mm spacer to be flushed
Inner Clearance: 18mm LESS Outer Face Position: 20mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height
***Prefect fitment without spacer and stock height***Updated 5-31-09 "from what I can see"
Proof
New Rims and Tint!


18X8.5 +48 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 5mm to be flushed [10mm spacer to be MAX flushed]
Inner Clearance: 21mm LESS Outer Face Position: 17mm MORE
Tries: 235/40 18 and 245/40 28 no rubbing issues with stock height
***Prefect fitment with 5mm spacer in the back***Updated 5-21-09
Proof
http://forums.evolutionm.net/2009-la...al-thread.html


18x8 +30 will = fronts will be poke out about 1/2" flushed and rears will be maxed flushed
Inner Clearance: 3mm LESS Outer Face Position: 29mm MORE
Tries:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender with out rolling
235/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too
***This fitment is too AGGRESSIVE with rolling the fenders***
***Now for the JDM look this will work for those dont know what i mean is the slammed drifter look in japan where all 4 wheels poke out just little past the fenders and the car has rock hard suspension setup and lower the car to about 1 1/2" before rubbing the fenders***


18x8 +40 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 10mm spacer being maxed flushed
Inner Clearance: 7mm LESS Outer Face Position: 19mm MORE
Tries: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height


18x8 +45 will = fronts will be closer to being flushed and rears will need a 10mm spacer to be maxed flushed
Inner Clearance: 12mm LESS Outer Face Position: 14mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height
***FIT PERFECT with out SPACER***
Proof
Just ordered my new wheels and tires:)
My track wheels

18x8 +48 will = fronts will be closer to being stock and rears will be closer to being stock
Inner Clearance: 15mm LESS Outer Face Position: 11mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height


General Wheel Fitment Info...

Hub Rings
Make sure you get hub rings for all aftermarket wheels don't want any weird noise, vibration or shaking...
make sure the wheel can fit oem tire pressure sensor ... for some reason not all aftermarket wheel fit it...

stay away from fake and cheap aftermarket light aluminum lugs... i have seen and have had lugs break off on a track day... if 2lbs matter to you get some reputable brands like work wheels and ray wheels that the ones i buy...


Rear space
Make sure it is hub centric... don't want any weird noise, vibration or shaking in the back!!!


TPMS

From TireRack

Thanks for the pm. I do show new sensors require a visit to the dealer for initialization. Haven't heard rotating causes an issue, but any new sensor needs to be programmed into the computer via a dealer visit. Typically its a 30 min labor charge.

Neal


If anyone else can give me more info on what they have or tried that will be great!!! TOGETHER we can make this the 2009 LANCER RALLIART WHEEL AND TIRES FITMENT THREAD


Evil

[slyman]

Nice tread!! Should make it a sticky for everyone else to look at!!

[CaSilvia]

I have spoken to a few people that say the issue with RA fitement is the rear, because of the AWD there is barely any room for anything <+38 for the rear.

The same people say you can't fit EVO X wheel on the RA because of this same issue. However the EVO X wheel are 18x8.5 if i remember correctly. So 18x8 +35 Should fit very well leaving the option for a few spacers to flush everything up if you like. Like communism this is all fine in dandy in theory as i have not tried this personally

[evocowboy]

just tried out my old evo VIII Enkei's w/ 245/40-17 Hoosier A6. Fit was flawless, & the wider track looked sick!!! few things I notice, when you hold them close together, the overall aspect ratio looks about the same, & the evo wheels were lighter then these hideous GTS wheels. I'm gonna swap these in on auto-X days, once I burn the hoosiers out, I may convert these to my daily wheels If the tpms will swap in.

[JONralli09]

great stuff

[evil03]

Originally Posted by CaSilvia

I have spoken to a few people that say the issue with RA fitement is the rear, because of the AWD there is barely any room for anything <+38 for the rear.

The same people say you can't fit EVO X wheel on the RA because of this same issue. However the EVO X wheel are 18x8.5 if i remember correctly. So 18x8 +35 Should fit very well leaving the option for a few spacers to flush everything up if you like. Like communism this is all fine in dandy in theory as i have not tried this personally

For 18x8 +35 will = front will poke out about 1/4"+ and the rears will be flushed
Inner Clearance: 2mm LESS Outer Face Position: 24mm MORE
Tires:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender
235/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too


Now with that EVO X wheels if there OFFSET is the stock +46 or even between +46 to +48 it will fit perfect with no problems... now does anyone know the stock OFFSET for a EVO X?? maybe wanna drop some EVO X wheels just for fun!

[havock28]

how about stock rims what is the widest tire we can rock on them?? id like to get a bit wider tread on my stock rims..

[evil03]

On 18x7 the max wider tire is 225 without rubbing

225/45 18 this will give you a 1/2" wider tread but its gonna be more round and it will look like an elephant feet ( the tire will be bigger then the width of the wheel by 1/4"+ depend on brand) which is not good for AWD there MORE sidewall flex!

OR

225/40 18 this will give you only about 1/2" wider tread but its gonna be more round and it will look like an elephant feet ( the tire will be bigger then the width of the wheel by 1/4"+ depend on brand) which is not good for AWD there LESS sidewall flex because of the lower profile!

what you really want is to have the most minimum sidewall flex... its a rally car its build to go around corners... not drag racing... if you look at top fuel drag cars they have monster sidewall flex when they launch the rear tires buckle to keep traction on take off....

so if you want a wider tread then get wider wheels like 8.5 to run 235/40 18 that will give you about 3/4" wider tread... and keep the sidewall flex down!

to much sidewall flex = spin out on auto x trace at a fast turn....

less sidewall flex = all rubber traction to keep all 4 wheels down

evil

[C H]

Nice post, have been trying to figure out what the largest tire I can get away with is.

[evil03]

Update

18x8 +45 with 235/40-18 fitment ***PERFECT***

Here Proof thanks to Darkdragon4862

Just ordered my new wheels and tires:)

[mmartahus]

ive got 225/45/18 on my GTS and they fit fine

[evil03]

Originally Posted by mmartahus

ive got 225/45/18 on my GTS and they fit fine

What wheel fitment you are using?

[Sportback]

For those interested, I have some info for the 2010 RA Sportback on wheel/tire fitments. Looks like the Sportback will be rolling on 18 x 7.5 cast alloy wheels with 215/45/R18 Yokohama ADVAN asymmetrical summer performance tires.

Moving to a 225/45/R18 will be an easy transition for those wanting to run 18 x 8 aftermarket rims, and then 235/40/R18 for those who want a more aggressive set up for 18 x 8 rims. Going to an 18 x 8.5 set up just does not seem needed at all for this car......18 x 8 is perfect imo with just enough extra grip to get the job done (of course a brake upgrade does seem a priority with the RA's.....the RA's stopping distance is not as needed for all the performance).

[mmartahus]

Originally Posted by evil03

What wheel fitment you are using?

I have them mounted to stock 18" wheels with no other adjustments

[Bozed]

Originally Posted by evil03

On 18x7 the max wider tire is 225 without rubbing

225/45 18 this will give you a 1/2" wider tread but its gonna be more round and it will look like an elephant feet ( the tire will be bigger then the width of the wheel by 1/4"+ depend on brand) which is not good for AWD there MORE sidewall flex!

OR

225/40 18 this will give you only about 1/2" wider tread but its gonna be more round and it will look like an elephant feet ( the tire will be bigger then the width of the wheel by 1/4"+ depend on brand) which is not good for AWD there LESS sidewall flex because of the lower profile!

what you really want is to have the most minimum sidewall flex... its a rally car its build to go around corners... not drag racing... if you look at top fuel drag cars they have monster sidewall flex when they launch the rear tires buckle to keep traction on take off....

so if you want a wider tread then get wider wheels like 8.5 to run 235/40 18 that will give you about 3/4" wider tread... and keep the sidewall flex down!

to much sidewall flex = spin out on auto x trace at a fast turn....

less sidewall flex = all rubber traction to keep all 4 wheels down

evil

True

I know the wrx265 does absolutely fine with those dunlop 45/225's, in fact its currently what is getting the subaru better marks then the ralliart off the lot imho. Do you think the 40 side wall would really make a difference over the 45 over looks? Hmm

Though I going over board on the stock rim is to much, just better rubber saves this car.