evil03

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EDIT by Mad_SB: Adding this link in here up top and it should help everyone figure out how things will fit:
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

Hi Everyone,

I have been researching high and low... and I am looking get the maximum wide wheel can fit the New Ralliart...

Stock Spec
PCD 5X114.3
SIZE 18X7
OFFSET 46MM
HUB 67MM
TIRES 215/45-18

Now form what I know.... 9s is the wides we can squeeze with out flaring out the REAR fender!!! but will need the ROLL the REAR with or without LOWERING!!!

Here are some options I found

18x9.5s on a RA!!!!

18x9.5 +20 will = front will poke out about 2.25" and rears will poke little less then 2.25"
Inner Clearance: 6mm LESS Outer Face Position: 58mm MORE
Tires: 225/40 18 with -2 camber all around , rear rolled and pulled 10mm 235/40 18 -2.5 camber , rolled and cut the tabs in the front, -2 camber, rolled and pulled 10mm to 15mm...
***When Lowered [WILL RUB everywhere even when your stock heigh] SO ROLL THE ALL FENDERS AND PULL THE REARS!!!!!!***
***This fitment is VERY AGGRESSIVE, NEED TO rolling and flare out the rear fenders FOR SURE***
!!!I am on these right now!!!

18x9.5 +28 will = front will poke out about 1 3/4" and rears will poke little less then 1 3/4"
Inner Clearance: 14mm LESS Outer Face Position: 26mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 rubbing with stock height
***When Lowered [WILL RUB everywhere even when your stock heigh] SO ROLL THE ALL FENDERS!!!!!!***
***This fitment is VERY AGGRESSIVE, NEED TO rolling and flare out the rear fenders FOR SURE***
shout out to BILLYBOY1 for doing it 1st on the RA


18x9.5 +30 will = front will poke out about 1 1/2" and rears will poke out about 1 1/2"
Inner Clearance: 16mm LESS Outer Face Position: 48mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 rubbing with stock height
***When Lowered [WILL RUB everywhere even when your stock heigh] SO ROLL THE ALL FENDERS!!!!!!***
***This fitment is VERY AGGRESSIVE, NEED TO rolling and flare out the rear fenders FOR SURE***
evil03 18x9.5 ET30 235/40-18 Eibach Pro Kit with a 10mm roll and pull

18x9.5 +35 will = front will poke out about 1 1/4" and rears will poke little less then 1 1/2"
Inner Clearance: 21mm LESS Outer Face Position: 43mm MORE
Tires:225/40-18 or 235/40 18 rubbing with stock height
***When Lowered [WILL RUB everywhere even when your stock heigh] SO ROLL THE ALL FENDERS!!!!!!***
***This fitment is VERY AGGRESSIVE, NEED TO rolling and flare out the rear fenders FOR SURE***


18x9 +30 will = front will poke about 3/4" and poke about 1/2" in the rear
Inner Clearance: 21mm LESS Outer Face Position: 41mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 will RUB with stock height roll the rear fenders!
***When Lowered [WILL RUB on the REAR fenders with my calculation on]
18x9+30 with 245/40-18



18x9 +36 will = front will poke about 1/2" and poke about 1/4" in the rear
Inner Clearance: 15mm LESS Outer Face Position: 35mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues yet with stock height
***When Lowered [WILL RUB on the REAR fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too] SO ROLL THE FENDERS!!!!!!***
***PROOF***https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...prings-11.html***Hell Yea 9s baby!!



18x8.5 +30 will = fronts will poke out about little more then 1 1/4" and rears will be poke out about 1/4"
Inner Clearance: 3mm LESS Outer Face Position: 35mm MORE
Tires:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender
235/40 18 and 245/40 18 WILL rub on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too
***This fitment is VERY AGGRESSIVE, NEED TO rolling the fenders FOR SURE***


18x8.5 +35 will = fronts will poke out about little more then 1/4" and rears will be flushed
Inner Clearance: 8mm LESS Outer Face Position: 30mm MORE
Tires:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender
235/40 18 and 245/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too
***This fitment is AGGRESSIVE so roll the fenders***

Stock Evo X wheels
18x8.5 +38 will = fronts will poke out about 1/4" and rears will be flushed
Inner Clearance: 11mm LESS Outer Face Position: 27mm MORE
Tires:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender
235/40 18 and 245/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too
***This fitment is AGGRESSIVE so roll the fenders***


18X8.5 +44 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 5mm spacer to be flushed
Inner Clearance: 17mm LESS Outer Face Position: 21mm MORE
Tires:225/40 18 and 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height
when lowering just a simple roll in the back will do just fine with no rubbing...


18X8.5 +45 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 5mm spacer to be flushed
Inner Clearance: 18mm LESS Outer Face Position: 20mm MORE
Tires:225/40 18and 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height
when lowering just a simple roll in the back will do just fine with no rubbing...
***Prefect fitment without spacer and stock height***Updated 5-31-09 "from what I can see"
Proof
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...rims-tint.html


18X8.5 +48 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 5mm to be flushed [10mm spacer to be MAX flushed]
Inner Clearance: 21mm LESS Outer Face Position: 17mm MORE
Tires:225/40 18 and 235/40 10 no rubbing issues with stock height
when lowering just a simple roll in the back will do just fine with no rubbing...
***Prefect fitment with 5mm spacer in the back***Updated 5-21-09
Proof
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/20...al-thread.html


18x8 +30 will = fronts will be poke out about 1/2" flushed and rears will be maxed flushed
Inner Clearance: 3mm LESS Outer Face Position: 29mm MORE
Tries:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender with out rolling
235/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too
***This fitment is too AGGRESSIVE with rolling the fenders***
***Now for the JDM look this will work for those dont know what i mean is the slammed drifter look in japan where all 4 wheels poke out just little past the fenders and the car has rock hard suspension setup and lower the car to about 1 1/2" before rubbing the fenders***


18x8 +40 will = fronts will be flushed and rears will need a 10mm spacer being maxed flushed
Inner Clearance: 7mm LESS Outer Face Position: 19mm MORE
Tries: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/9252639-post571.html

18x8 +45 will = fronts will be closer to being flushed and rears will need a 10mm spacer to be maxed flushed
Inner Clearance: 12mm LESS Outer Face Position: 14mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height
***FIT PERFECT with out SPACER***
Proof
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/20...s-tires-3.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/20...ck-wheels.html

18x8 +48 will = fronts will be closer to being stock and rears will be closer to being stock
Inner Clearance: 15mm LESS Outer Face Position: 11mm MORE
Tires: 235/40 18 no rubbing issues with stock height


General Wheel Fitment Info...

Hub Rings
Make sure you get hub rings for all aftermarket wheels don't want any weird noise, vibration or shaking...
make sure the wheel can fit oem tire pressure sensor ... for some reason not all aftermarket wheel fit it...

stay away from fake and cheap aftermarket light aluminum lugs... i have seen and have had lugs break off on a track day... if 2lbs matter to you get some reputable brands like work wheels and ray wheels that the ones i buy...


Rear space
Make sure it is hub centric... don't want any weird noise, vibration or shaking in the back!!!


TPMS

From TireRack

Thanks for the pm. I do show new sensors require a visit to the dealer for initialization. Haven't heard rotating causes an issue, but any new sensor needs to be programmed into the computer via a dealer visit. Typically its a 30 min labor charge.

Neal


If anyone else can give me more info on what they have or tried that will be great!!! TOGETHER we can make this the 2009 LANCER RALLIART WHEEL AND TIRES FITMENT THREAD


Evil

slyman

Nice tread!! Should make it a sticky for everyone else to look at!!

CaSilvia

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I have spoken to a few people that say the issue with RA fitement is the rear, because of the AWD there is barely any room for anything <+38 for the rear.

The same people say you can't fit EVO X wheel on the RA because of this same issue. However the EVO X wheel are 18x8.5 if i remember correctly. So 18x8 +35 Should fit very well leaving the option for a few spacers to flush everything up if you like. Like communism this is all fine in dandy in theory as i have not tried this personally

evocowboy

just tried out my old evo VIII Enkei's w/ 245/40-17 Hoosier A6. Fit was flawless, & the wider track looked sick!!! few things I notice, when you hold them close together, the overall aspect ratio looks about the same, & the evo wheels were lighter then these hideous GTS wheels. I'm gonna swap these in on auto-X days, once I burn the hoosiers out, I may convert these to my daily wheels If the tpms will swap in.

evil03

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For 18x8 +35 will = front will poke out about 1/4"+ and the rears will be flushed
Inner Clearance: 2mm LESS Outer Face Position: 24mm MORE
Tires:
225/45 18 if lower to prevent rubbing and cutting of the wheel on the fender
235/40 18 will rub a little on the fenders with my calculation on bumps, dips, and pot holes and maybe driveways too


Now with that EVO X wheels if there OFFSET is the stock +46 or even between +46 to +48 it will fit perfect with no problems... now does anyone know the stock OFFSET for a EVO X?? maybe wanna drop some EVO X wheels just for fun!

havock28

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how about stock rims what is the widest tire we can rock on them?? id like to get a bit wider tread on my stock rims..

evil03

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On 18x7 the max wider tire is 225 without rubbing

225/45 18 this will give you a 1/2" wider tread but its gonna be more round and it will look like an elephant feet ( the tire will be bigger then the width of the wheel by 1/4"+ depend on brand) which is not good for AWD there MORE sidewall flex!

OR

225/40 18 this will give you only about 1/2" wider tread but its gonna be more round and it will look like an elephant feet ( the tire will be bigger then the width of the wheel by 1/4"+ depend on brand) which is not good for AWD there LESS sidewall flex because of the lower profile!

what you really want is to have the most minimum sidewall flex... its a rally car its build to go around corners... not drag racing... if you look at top fuel drag cars they have monster sidewall flex when they launch the rear tires buckle to keep traction on take off....

so if you want a wider tread then get wider wheels like 8.5 to run 235/40 18 that will give you about 3/4" wider tread... and keep the sidewall flex down!

to much sidewall flex = spin out on auto x trace at a fast turn....

less sidewall flex = all rubber traction to keep all 4 wheels down

evil

evil03

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Update

18x8 +45 with 235/40-18 fitment ***PERFECT***

Here Proof thanks to Darkdragon4862

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/20...s-tires-3.html

mmartahus

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ive got 225/45/18 on my GTS and they fit fine

evil03

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What wheel fitment you are using?

Sportback

For those interested, I have some info for the 2010 RA Sportback on wheel/tire fitments. Looks like the Sportback will be rolling on 18 x 7.5 cast alloy wheels with 215/45/R18 Yokohama ADVAN asymmetrical summer performance tires.

Moving to a 225/45/R18 will be an easy transition for those wanting to run 18 x 8 aftermarket rims, and then 235/40/R18 for those who want a more aggressive set up for 18 x 8 rims. Going to an 18 x 8.5 set up just does not seem needed at all for this car......18 x 8 is perfect imo with just enough extra grip to get the job done (of course a brake upgrade does seem a priority with the RA's.....the RA's stopping distance is not as needed for all the performance).

mmartahus

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I have them mounted to stock 18" wheels with no other adjustments

Bozed

True

I know the wrx265 does absolutely fine with those dunlop 45/225's, in fact its currently what is getting the subaru better marks then the ralliart off the lot imho. Do you think the 40 side wall would really make a difference over the 45 over looks? Hmm

Though I going over board on the stock rim is to much, just better rubber saves this car.

evil03

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you guys crack me up!!!! its in the owners manuals near the back of the book... and if it was 7.5 mitsu wont have ran 215/45-18 tires it would have came with 225/45-18

215 tires are meant for 6" to 7" wide wheels
225 tires are meant for 7" to 8" wide wheels
235 tires are meant for 8" to 9" wide wheels

these are just rule of thumb...

but always you can stretch fit or over size a fitment

keeping it with in spec keeps the side wall flex down and keep traction squared...


evil

RotorGlowRA82

I have 18X8 +40mm offset w/ 235/40/18 tires. Went to my mechanic and he said I need spacers does anyone know if this will cause any rubbing issues with the spacer.

Also does any one know what size I need for spacers?