test drove an evo x 2010 - Page 3

boondoc · Nov 2, 2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by justin81

It still is a great looking and fun car to drive, but in the end I'm still left feeling like I'm missing out on something amazing and magical everytime I see an Evo go by. That's just me though.

I feel u. I have fun with the Ralliart but i still think of the Evo. But right now is jus not the time for me.

I'm surprised they let ppl drive Evo's now. The only time i got to drove an X was around the lot to park out back.

ExcessLancer · Nov 5, 2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladogaboy

As one well-respected racer/tuner put it, the RA has one thing the EVO will never have: over 100 less pounds of weight. A majority of that weight difference comes from the AYC. Even with the extra weight reduction, the EVO is a little porker.

Hence the reason that mitsu should have given both cars 30 more hp to offset that weight issue..

Ladogaboy · Nov 5, 2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ExcessLancer

Hence the reason that mitsu should have given both cars 30 more hp to offset that weight issue..

Yeah. It seems like they are still operating with the mindset that the "gentleman's agreement" is still in place.

Maybe they're getting ready to release the FQ series in the United States!

ExcessLancer · Nov 5, 2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladogaboy

Yeah. It seems like they are still operating with the mindset that the "gentleman's agreement" is still in place.

Maybe they're getting ready to release the FQ series in the United States!

but if they bring the FQ they would charge 50K plus for it..lol.

tipoytm · Nov 5, 2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by justin81

So I bought it and now the wife doesn't like driving it because she is afraid she will break it, and doesn't like how it "bucks" when down shifting.

It still is a great looking and fun car to drive, but in the end I'm still left feeling like I'm missing out on something amazing and magical everytime I see an Evo go by. That's just me though.

From an X owner who test drove the RA last night, I don't understand why people are making such a big fuss on "bucking" thing with the SST. When I drive a manual, I ALWAYS downshift when decelerating enough and it will always make the car "buck" (to a certain degree) after I let go of the clutch pedal. Downshifting prolongs the lifespan of my brakes and it is good for the engine... I don't mind the "bucking" part at all if you properly drive a manual car. If you use the clutch more (therefore braking more) as you decelerate, well that's up to you. I guess people are just used to regular automatics, that's why you don't experience this bucking thing cuz they use torque converters. But for guys like me who grew up and drove manual cars for over a decade and use engine-braking, it's a no-brainer. The SST behaves exactly like a manual with a proper "virtual driver/shifter", it downshifts on decelarations to use engine braking and make sure that you are in the optimal RPM range as the car engages into a lower gear for better engine/throttle response.

To be honest though, as I test drove the RA last night, the SST shifts were buttery smooth, none of this clunking thing people say here. Maybe because it's a 2010?

kcandiloro · Nov 5, 2009, 11:09 AM

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To be honest though, as I test drove the RA last night, the SST shifts were buttery smooth, none of this clunking thing people say here. Maybe because it's a 2010?

The clunking can be reduced almost entirely through careful accelerator control. Fine accelerator variation during slow starts / stops keeps the ride pretty smooth. Took a few weeks to learn this on my 08 MR. The most common time for this is when rolling in 1st in slow traffic. Extremely fine depression of the accelerator until the clutches catch keeps the bucking / clunking to a minimum.

The MR (SST) can be driven like an automatic, but don't be surprised that the ride quality suffers. Drive it like a manual without a clutch pedal and it behaves much nicer.

tipoytm · Nov 5, 2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kcandiloro

The MR can be driven like an automatic, but don't be surprised that the ride quality suffers. Drive it like a manual without a clutch pedal and it behaves much nicer.

+1! RA drivers HAVE TO bear in mind that the SST transmission is not a regular automatic that uses torque converters. It behaves A LOT more like a manual car, just without a clutch pedal. If people aren't used to driving a manual car, it's easy to understand why they would give the SST a bad review, imo stop treating it like a regular automatic transmission... learn how to use the throttle effectively w/ the SST.

Ladogaboy · Nov 5, 2009, 12:47 PM

I concur. The SST behaves much more like a manual than an automatic; the "bucking" only occurs when I am driving it aggressively in manual mode. Not really much difference in feel from the manuals I've driven.

jazket · Nov 5, 2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladogaboy

I concur. The SST behaves much more like a manual than an automatic; the "bucking" only occurs when I am driving it aggressively in manual mode. Not really much difference in feel from the manuals I've driven.

+5

"bucking" while manual shifting is something normal for me as well; auto + normal: a bit of slippage, you could feel the tranny engage and if you let go of the gas a little then there comes your bucking... auto + sport: lagless, zero bucking, it's the perfect weapon

the only difference from a manual with a clutch pedal is that I get to bang my left foot to the foot-rest where the clutch pedal should have been, while listening to Tool

Ladogaboy · Nov 5, 2009, 01:22 PM

Well, because of my fat feet, when I was first adjusting, the inside of my left foot would catch the brake pedal as I slammed it against the floor. A rough ride, to say the least.

boondoc · Nov 5, 2009, 02:24 PM

*All the above*

I think ppl forget that this "essentially" is a manual tranny, its not the regular Sportronic automatic w/ a torque converter. But because it has no clutch pedal they assume its an auto. I almost slapped my best friend when he said it was an automatic. I had to school him really quick about different transmissions and how they operate. Silly Honda Heads

tipoytm · Nov 5, 2009, 02:49 PM

^ I agree, it's really sad a lot of people who are into cars don't really do that much research about new technologies that are now equipped on new cars like the SST and DSG transmissions. Although, I've not tried driving a DSG equipped car before, I'd imagine it has the same "feel" as the SST. Torque-converter traditional automatics (including sportronics/tiptronics) are just so uhmmm... dull (for the lack of a better term), although it does have its advantages cuz it's easy to use and very traffic-friendly. Still, performance-minded drivers/enthusiasts look for a manual transmission for that raw/direct power feeling. The SST/DSG type gives you the best of both worlds, all of the advantages and none of the negatives from both oldschool trannys (at least from how I see it).

DetroitRA · Nov 5, 2009, 03:29 PM

^I suppose the only negative is that if the transmission fails out of warranty...well...I don't wanna think about it.

boondoc · Nov 5, 2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitRA

^I suppose the only negative is that if the transmission fails out of warranty...well...I don't wanna think about it.

LOL. Yes lets not think about that right now.

Bo0yaka · Nov 5, 2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by boondoc

LOL. Yes lets not think about that right now.

I was actually thinking about that today more then half the car price would be "transmission" by the time the warranty runs out