Another turbo build

ralliartN20 · Aug 4, 2008, 06:49 PM

So been away from the forums for some time, have had good sucess with runnin nitrous on the RA, a 100shot from a Nitrousoutlet.com Wet system along with intake, exhuast, drag radials and about 20 runs, dip'd her down into the 13's.

Well now I want the same power but all the time and its time to go boosted. At first just going to throw together a very cheap setup to get me goin and we'll see how it goes from there, already have a 14b turbo, SMIC, dsm 450's but from the little researching i've done so far you cant use those, so looks like evo 8 fuel rail with wrx injectors and a adjustable FPR, going to use a B-series turbo mani with the 4g69 flange, as for management need to research some more, only going to run like 5lbs until i get the whole setup line'd out on a dyno. So stay tuned should be interesting lol

DangerousDan · Aug 5, 2008, 02:44 PM

sounds like you've done loads more research this time

if you are not concerned with obdii (it doesn't sound like it) spend the money and have a shop run a full standalone system. with your goals it's the best thing to do, given that there is no piggyback available that's 100% up to the challenge.

ralliartN20 · Aug 5, 2008, 05:01 PM

I seen another thread while i was researching posted of a RA that Oddball turbo & performance built that that is now turning out 420whp at 20psi according to them. They also say they have succesfully got the e-manage to work well with the RA. They are located about 3 and 1/2 hours from me so Im thinking of contacting them and see what they can do for me.

stEVOx · Aug 5, 2008, 05:43 PM

good work, but why that turbo? isnt it a tad small or are you going for a no lag approach, coz isnt the common size 16g(i assume 14b is smaller)
also why a sidemount intercooler, sleeper?

ralliartN20 · Aug 5, 2008, 06:14 PM

Mainly the reason for those parts is cheap and availability, I have a 91 talon tsi that im rebuilding so i have the stock parts from it. The 14b is small, but with our cars not having a high redline like a honda I rather have the quick spool. I mainly want to get it boosted at a very low level so I can concentrate on prob the most hardest part of boosting our cars, the engine management.

Once I find a good route to go and tuning the car is lined out, then I will go to a bigger setup with bigger numbers.... Crawl, walk, run kind of thing.

stEVOx · Aug 6, 2008, 02:23 AM

kool, keep us posted, would like to see this turn out.

DangerousDan · Aug 6, 2008, 02:10 PM

it doesn't take much work to get high numbers, but getting a good usable powerband... more thought has to go into the project. there is an old saying: HP wins dyno competitions, TQ wins races

ralliartN20 · Aug 6, 2008, 03:59 PM

...our cars can shure put the tq numbers when it comes to bein compared to other cars in its class. Ill be happy with anything over 200hp at 5 psi on the 14b, should be easy to attain right?

Also. I see that RRM now offers their piggyback with program software so that you can tune it yourself. Does it have enough tuning ablities to run a custom turbo setup reliably?

PR_Mivec · Aug 6, 2008, 04:04 PM

yes it does

ralliartN20 · Aug 6, 2008, 05:05 PM

outstanding, then unless anyone would suggest otherwise I'm going to use the RRM piggy for management. I have a good tuner in town that works at the shop I go to for dyno pulls.

PR_Mivec · Aug 6, 2008, 10:19 PM

be sure to buy the one that controls timing and fuel
and good luck

stEVOx · Aug 7, 2008, 12:41 AM

i believe the greddy emanage blue has been used in the past by some people

and RPW uses and supplies haltech(sp?) e6 and/or e8 piggybacks that may be worth looking into ...
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php...limitstart=200

ralliartN20 · Aug 7, 2008, 08:38 AM

ty I was looking into the e-manage as well because i seen another post where someone had used it with sucess.

DangerousDan · Aug 7, 2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Mivec

yes it does

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Originally Posted by ralliartN20

So been away from the forums for some time, have had good sucess with runnin nitrous on the RA, a 100shot from a Nitrousoutlet.com Wet system along with intake, exhuast, drag radials and about 20 runs, dip'd her down into the 13's.

Well now I want the same power but all the time and its time to go boosted. At first just going to throw together a very cheap setup to get me goin and we'll see how it goes from there, already have a 14b turbo, SMIC, dsm 450's but from the little researching i've done so far you cant use those, so looks like evo 8 fuel rail with wrx injectors and a adjustable FPR, going to use a B-series turbo mani with the 4g69 flange, as for management need to research some more, only going to run like 5lbs until i get the whole setup line'd out on a dyno. So stay tuned should be interesting lol

I thought that the RRM turbo unit was set up for a fifth injector, and it did not adjust fuel on the stock injectors.

RalliDew · Aug 7, 2008, 08:06 PM

when u get the b series mani make sure u get the one were the waist is off the the side b/c if not you will have to switch to the civic radiator witch i would do anyways cause a alum radiator for those are cheep.... just a tip. and to run the evo rail with a return system you will need to get an ES lancer fuel pump assem then doit.